I was just wondering when liberals would sign in. I just wrote a piece on conservatives. Now let me talk about liberals. What they hell do they want? I told a republican friend, when he was shocked that Obama picked a centrist cabinet. That hey he is black, what did you think.
He is not Cornell West who I love but who voted for the (I can’t stand him Ralph Nader).
No he is black
I don’t know why republicans can’t see that black folks and them merge on many issues. Yes we love family those of us that are trying and this is not about class
The black family was stable and strong when I grow up and there is no reason to believe that given some money and a few chances that it can’t be that way again.
Having class have manners, and we want our kids to do well. We aren’t against war, are against gay marriage. We don’t mind people having guns
Hell we like guns although we tend to shoot each other.
But that another story.
Anyway liberals and conservatives are both crazy. They both have unrealistic expectations. Liberals still talk that tired old Vietnam shit.
Anti war yada yada yada
Abortion tired old issue
And so on
Anyway ill say this again, every one we are in economic hell.
Do you really think that Obama can do even half of what you want?
I am more worried about working and eating.
Global warming ok we can work on that
But now its about housing and jobs
Liberals, maybe you guys should get one.
Conservatives, you are crazy too
So every one just shut up
And watch and see
Obama needs people who can do stuff on their own
Cant you see this
Ok
Liberals Wonder When Obama’s Team Will Reflect Them
By PETER BAKER
Published: December 8, 2008
CHICAGO — President-elect Barack Obama’s appointments have tilted so much to the political center that they have drawn praise from the likes of Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh. That alone would seem enough to set off a revolt in his liberal base. But a month into Mr. Obama’s transition, many on the political left are trying to hold their tongues.
In assembling his team to date, Mr. Obama has largely passed over progressives, opting to keep President Bush’s defense secretary, tapping a retired general close to Senator John McCain and recruiting economists from the traditionally corporate, free-trade, deficit-hawk wing of the party. The choices have deeply frustrated liberals who thought Mr. Obama’s election signaled the rise of a new progressive era.
But so far, they are mainly muting their protest, clinging to the belief that Mr. Obama still means what he said on the campaign trail and remaining wary of undermining what they see as the most liberal president sent to the White House in a generation. They are quietly lobbying for more liberals in the next round of appointments, seeking at least some like-minded voices at the table. And they are banking on the idea that no matter whom he installs under him, Mr. Obama will be the driving force for the change they seek.
“It’s a great question — one that many of us have been trying to avoid,” said Representative Raúl M. Grijalva, Democrat of Arizona, the incoming co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, when asked last week how liberals viewed Mr. Obama’s team. “The euphoria of the election is still there, and still there for me. It’s not a question of benefit of the doubt. It’s a question of trust, and I trust that we’re going to be moving in the right direction.”
As it happens, Mr. Grijalva is the focus of some of that trust. The Obama transition team has let it be known that he is under consideration for secretary of the interior, and many liberals have made that possible nomination a litmus test for whether Mr. Obama really is serious about including them in the top echelon of his government.
Others are swallowing concerns about personnel to concentrate instead on policy. Some see a New Deal for the 21st century in Mr. Obama’s plans to push an economic recovery program that would devote hundreds of billions of dollars to infrastructure projects, social safety-net programs and environmentally friendly industry.
“He ran on such a progressive agenda, if he’s not breaking away from that, if he’s getting centrists to implement it, we’ll take that,” said Robert L. Borosage, president of the Institute for America’s Future and once a top adviser to Jesse L. Jackson’s presidential campaign.
Markos Moulitsas, founder of the influential Daily Kos site on the Internet, said it was way too early to begin judging Mr. Obama. “Some people may be nit-picky about his choices but at the end of the day, he’s going to make better choices than John McCain would have made,” Mr. Moulitsas said by telephone. “There will be a time to push him but as far as I’m concerned, I’m going to wait to see what it means on a policy basis, not on personalities.”
Some of Mr. Moulitsas’s fellow bloggers, though, have been less patient. “Why isn’t there a single member of Obama’s cabinet who will be advising him from the left?” asked Chris Bowers on his site, OpenLeft .com. Kevin Drum, writing on the Web site of the liberal magazine Mother Jones, echoed that sentiment: “I mean, that is why most of us voted for him, right?”
In an opinion article for The Washington Post on Sunday, David Corn, the Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones, wrote that “progressives are — depending on whom you ask — disappointed, irritated or fit to be tied.” But he added that “there’s no rebellion yet at hand” and “I’m not yet reaching for a pitchfork” because the left still is hoping that Mr. Obama will hijack the establishment to advance liberal causes.
The mixed emotions on the left reflect a larger uncertainty about how to view Mr. Obama. Although National Journal deemed him the most liberal senator based on major votes and many liberals flocked to his campaign, Mr. Obama ran more on inspiration than ideology and has not always adopted the orthodoxy of the left. He proposed expanding health care coverage but does not favor a government-run single-payer system. He has criticized the Bush administration’s counterterrorism policies but voted for a compromise surveillance bill.
In the weeks since his election, Mr. Obama or his advisers have signaled that he might delay some promises that appealed to progressives, like raising taxes on the wealthy, reopening negotiations over the North American Free Trade Agreement and ending restrictions on gay men and lesbians serving in the military. While renewing his desire to withdraw combat forces from Iraq in 16 months, he has emphasized that he will listen to alternatives presented by the military.
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