full article below my babbling
Gays are pissed at Obama because of rich Warren at the inauguration.
Silly silly silly
The guy told you want he wants to do.
He is trying to be a president of all people and bridge some of the gaps between people and their beliefs.
I have friends who are left wing radicals, right wingers, middle of the roaders
Who cares, it’s their right
All I can do is try to convince them of the errors of their ways, lol.
But they are entitled to their opinions even if they are extreme.
Rich Warren is an evangelist
What do you think he is going to say about abortion and or gay rights?
That’s not the issue
He is there so that many in the country who are still pissed off about a black
Oops
I mean about a democrat being president
Give the guy a break
Do you know what’s wrong with this country?
Even one is so right
I am starting to dislike the extreme left as much as I dislike the extreme right
Yes I say that republicans are misguided, but they think the same of me
I applaud Obama for having the courage to have rich warren speak
I wasn’t sure if Obama was a guy who would confront things
And this shows me more and more that they guy has a plan
And isn’t scared to piss off folks
You will see the real Obama now
Liberals want to shove many of their silly ideas down his throat
I get into the biggest fights about abortion and gay rights
Abortion is an issue but in these times it should be relegated to the back burner I am sorry.
I keep hearing from my liberal feminist friends
How woman will be driven to back alleys again
Hummmmmmmm
Look rich or well off woman could always get abortions
Poor woman
I remember growing up
And pregnant girls would take quinine
And all kinds of things
Yes I remember the coat hanger days
Desperation
I am not blind or insensitive
But don’t you think that the democratic party after all of these years
Could come up with some thing different
hummmmmmmm
Gay rights
What they hell do they want?
To be accepted for whom they are or want to be
What ever
I am black and still waiting for that one
So please forgive me if I am not playing a violin
Again I say
I believe in civil unions
That enough for now
I believe that gays should be allowed to serve in the military openly
As long as they aren’t dressing like Klinger from Mash
So every one get over it
And ill tell you this
If the gay confinement shows up to picket at the inagraration
If they mess up
This my moment
Well
I am sure their will be folks to take care of them
Again give the gay a break
He is trying some thing new
I am not anti feminist and certainly not anti gay
But again
I have said this throughout the election
To black leaders
Shut the hell up
So gays
Beulah says
Shut the hell and
Look watch and hopefully
You will get most of what you want
And don’t be out there in Washington
Screaming and picketing
Because their will be a half of million middle aged black woman
Just waiting to spank ya
Gay leaders furious with Obama
By BEN SMITH & NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON | 12/17/08 5:59 PM EST
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Rick Warren, Obama’s pick to give the inaugural invocation, backed the California ban on same-sex marriage.
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Barack Obama’s choice of a prominent evangelical minister to deliver the invocation at his inauguration is a conciliatory gesture toward social conservatives who opposed him in November, but it is drawing fierce challenges from a gay rights movement that — in the wake of a gay marriage ban in California — is looking for a fight.
Rick Warren, the senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Southern California, opposes abortion rights but has taken more liberal stances on the government's role in fighting poverty, and backed away from other evangelicals’ staunch support for economic conservatism. But it’s his support for the California constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage that drew the most heated criticism from Democrats Wednesday.
“Your invitation to Reverend Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at your inauguration is a genuine blow to LGBT Americans,” the president of Human Rights Campaign, Joe Solomonese, wrote to Obama Wednesday. “[W]e feel a deep level of disrespect when one of architects and promoters of an anti-gay agenda is given the prominence and the pulpit of your historic nomination.
The rapid, angry reaction from a range of gay activists comes as the gay rights movement looks for an opportunity to flex its political muscle. Last summer gay groups complained, but were rebuffed by Obama, when an “ex-gay” singer led Obama’s rallies in South Carolina. And many were shocked last month when voters approved the California ban.
“There is a lot of energy and there’s a lot of anger and I think people are wanting to direct it somewhere,” Solomonese told Politico.
The selection of Warren to preside at the inauguration is not a surprise move, but it is a mirror image of President Bill Clinton’s early struggles with gay rights issues. Obama has worked, and at times succeeded, to bridge the gap between Democrats and evangelical Christians, who form a solid section of the Republican base.
Obama opposes same-sex marriage, but also opposed the California constitutional amendment Warren backed. In selecting Warren, he is choosing to reach out to conservatives on a hot-button social issue, at the cost of antagonizing gay voters who overwhelmingly supported him.
Clinton, by contrast, drew early praise from gay rights activists by pressing to allow openly gay soldiers to serve, only to retreat into the “don’t ask, don’t tell” compromise that pleased few.
The reaction Wednesday in gay rights circles was universally negative.
“It’s a huge mistake,” said California gay rights activist Rick Jacobs, who chairs the state’s Courage Campaign. “He’s really the wrong person to lead the president into office.
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“Can you imagine if he had a man of God doing the invocation who had deliberately said that Jews are not going to be saved and therefore should be excluded from what’s going on in America? People would be up in arms,” he said.
The editor of the Washington Blade, Kevin Naff, called the choice “Obama’s first big mistake.”
“His presence on the inauguration stand is a slap in the faces of the millions of GLBT voters who so enthusiastically supported him,” Naff wrote, referring to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people. “This tone-deafness to our concerns must not be tolerated. We have just endured eight years of endless assaults on our dignity and equality from a president beholden to bigoted conservative Christians. The election was supposed to have ended that era. It appears otherwise.”
Other liberal groups chimed in.
“Rick Warren gets plenty of attention through his books and media appearances. He doesn’t need or deserve this position of honor,” said the president of People for the American Way, Kathryn Kolbert, who described Warren as “someone who has in recent weeks actively promoted legalized discrimination and denigrated the lives and relationships of millions of Americans.”
Warren’s spokeswoman did not respond to a message seeking comment, but he has tried to blend personal tolerance with doctrinal disapproval of homosexuality.
“I have many gay friends. I’ve eaten dinner in gay homes. No church has probably done more for people with AIDS than Saddleback Church,” he said in a recent interview with BeliefNet.
In the same interview, he compared the “redefiniton of a marrige” to include gay marriage to legitimizing incest, child abuse, and polygamy.
Obama’s move may deepen some apparent distance between him among gays and lesbians, one of the very few core Democratic groups among whom his performance was worse than John Kerry’s in 2004. Exit polls suggested that John McCain won 27 percent of the gay vote in November, up four points from Bush’s 2004 tally — even as almost all other voters slid toward Obama.
But despite the symbolism of picking Warren, Obama is likely to shift several substantive policy areas in directions that will please gay voters and their political leaders, including a pledge to end “don’t ask, don’t tell” in military service.
And some gay activists were holding out hope that they would either persuade Obama to dump Warren or Warren to change his mind.
“Rick Warren did a real disservice to gay families in California and across the country by casually supporting our continued exclusion from marriage,” said the founder of the pro-same sex marriage Freedom to Marry, Evan Wolfson. “I hope in the spirit of the new era that’s dawning, he will open his heart and speak to all Americans about inclusion and our country’s commitment to equality.”
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